Hit me with your best shots...
But you can't have it both ways, Obama
It's inevitable. I'm a woman, I supported Hillary Clinton during the primary, so the first question to be thrown my way, when I announce my unwavering support for John McCain, is some variant of this: "But he will make sure abortions are illegal – what about Roe v. Wade?"
That's actually a rather nice way of putting it. For example, at a friend's house last week, a woman who supports Obama first asked me if I was afraid of change (actually yes, I'm afraid of his type of change, so in that sense I suppose I am), or if I was racist (no, but that's another attack typically used). After that she got to the Roe v. Wade argument and vehemently told me that, while she would never make that choice for herself, she wouldn't let anyone tell her what to do with her body.
Let me preface this by saying that I did, as I said, support Hillary Clinton – I was actually a delegate for her. But it was a tough choice, because I had decided eight years ago that if John McCain ever ran again, I would vote for him as I did in the 2000 primary. I'm Independent, and I have no loyalty to any party (certainly not the DNC, which I think is run by a bunch of clowns these days, although I did typically vote Democratic in the past).
I am, however, also pro choice, and like the woman I was speaking to, though it's not a decision I would make for myself, it's also not one I'm willing to take away from others – although I would never take it to the extent that Barack Obama has in his support of abortion.
But back to the debate I had with this woman. She got quite upset, while I was actually very mellow. It was July 4 and I had promised not to discuss politics, but she brought the topic up. I explained that I wasn't concerned about Roe v. Wade being overturned because McCain has vowed to appoint judges who will not legislate from the bench and I take him at his word.
"I don't believe him," she said.
I also said that Obama has come out in support of the death penalty, and not just in murder cases. She said she also supported the death penalty (actually she yelled it) and I said I do, too. I pointed out that if Obama is supporting the death penalty and plans to appoint judges who are in agreement with that, they won't be the same type of judges who are pro choice, especially to his extent. (You can't have it both ways, Obama).
She said he will appoint judges who won't make decisions from the bench (hmm, I wonder where she heard that?) and I said I disagreed – he has changed his mind so many times I can't take his word for anything, especially since I don't trust his character.
That led to a debate about the character of Obama (she didn't know who Rezco, Ayers, Farrakhan, or many of his other associates were and didn't care to listen). She said, instead, "McCain may say he'll appoint those judges but he'll bow to the Republicans because he's not strong enough."
Excuse me? McCain isn't strong enough? That's when I had to stop myself – wait a minute. This man withstood 5-1/2 years of torture as a POW and has been a maverick in the Senate. He has always been bipartisan. I pointed this out to her, as well as the fact that Obama has barely spent any time in the Senate.
"Well McCain is still living in the past, in the Vietnam era. And you know what else? I'm not proud of my country either! I won't put my hand over my heart during the pledge," she threw in.
I knew she was talking about his wife, but I said instead, "Isn't that ageism?" I was getting ready to talk about sexism, but didn't have a chance. "Well, I'm older than you so I can say that," she replied, "and I'm really disappointed in you that you aren't supporting Obama after supporting Hillary. I hope you just don't vote!" She's about seven or eight years older than me, by the way.
So, go ahead and hit me with your best shots: Roe v. Wade (doesn't fly, I DO believe McCain is strong enough and I take him at his word). Racism (it's rampant, but I think Obama is the racist; just because it's reverse racism doesn't mean it doesn't count). Iraq (Obama gave two press conferences last week to "clarify" his position; I don't think even he knows what it is, and I certainly trust McCain to do a better job). The economy: Take a look at Obama's district and how the people there live, after he entered into a partnership with a private company to "improve" conditions – slum lord is all I can say.
On top of all that, after all my research into Barack Obama, the damage he would do to our country would be so far reaching that I don't think Roe v. Wade would be our biggest concern. But that's another story, soon to come.
I've taken a good, long look at the candidates and done my homework. And I've chosen the only one qualified to lead our country: John McCain.
It's inevitable. I'm a woman, I supported Hillary Clinton during the primary, so the first question to be thrown my way, when I announce my unwavering support for John McCain, is some variant of this: "But he will make sure abortions are illegal – what about Roe v. Wade?"
That's actually a rather nice way of putting it. For example, at a friend's house last week, a woman who supports Obama first asked me if I was afraid of change (actually yes, I'm afraid of his type of change, so in that sense I suppose I am), or if I was racist (no, but that's another attack typically used). After that she got to the Roe v. Wade argument and vehemently told me that, while she would never make that choice for herself, she wouldn't let anyone tell her what to do with her body.
Let me preface this by saying that I did, as I said, support Hillary Clinton – I was actually a delegate for her. But it was a tough choice, because I had decided eight years ago that if John McCain ever ran again, I would vote for him as I did in the 2000 primary. I'm Independent, and I have no loyalty to any party (certainly not the DNC, which I think is run by a bunch of clowns these days, although I did typically vote Democratic in the past).
I am, however, also pro choice, and like the woman I was speaking to, though it's not a decision I would make for myself, it's also not one I'm willing to take away from others – although I would never take it to the extent that Barack Obama has in his support of abortion.
But back to the debate I had with this woman. She got quite upset, while I was actually very mellow. It was July 4 and I had promised not to discuss politics, but she brought the topic up. I explained that I wasn't concerned about Roe v. Wade being overturned because McCain has vowed to appoint judges who will not legislate from the bench and I take him at his word.
"I don't believe him," she said.
I also said that Obama has come out in support of the death penalty, and not just in murder cases. She said she also supported the death penalty (actually she yelled it) and I said I do, too. I pointed out that if Obama is supporting the death penalty and plans to appoint judges who are in agreement with that, they won't be the same type of judges who are pro choice, especially to his extent. (You can't have it both ways, Obama).
She said he will appoint judges who won't make decisions from the bench (hmm, I wonder where she heard that?) and I said I disagreed – he has changed his mind so many times I can't take his word for anything, especially since I don't trust his character.
That led to a debate about the character of Obama (she didn't know who Rezco, Ayers, Farrakhan, or many of his other associates were and didn't care to listen). She said, instead, "McCain may say he'll appoint those judges but he'll bow to the Republicans because he's not strong enough."
Excuse me? McCain isn't strong enough? That's when I had to stop myself – wait a minute. This man withstood 5-1/2 years of torture as a POW and has been a maverick in the Senate. He has always been bipartisan. I pointed this out to her, as well as the fact that Obama has barely spent any time in the Senate.
"Well McCain is still living in the past, in the Vietnam era. And you know what else? I'm not proud of my country either! I won't put my hand over my heart during the pledge," she threw in.
I knew she was talking about his wife, but I said instead, "Isn't that ageism?" I was getting ready to talk about sexism, but didn't have a chance. "Well, I'm older than you so I can say that," she replied, "and I'm really disappointed in you that you aren't supporting Obama after supporting Hillary. I hope you just don't vote!" She's about seven or eight years older than me, by the way.
So, go ahead and hit me with your best shots: Roe v. Wade (doesn't fly, I DO believe McCain is strong enough and I take him at his word). Racism (it's rampant, but I think Obama is the racist; just because it's reverse racism doesn't mean it doesn't count). Iraq (Obama gave two press conferences last week to "clarify" his position; I don't think even he knows what it is, and I certainly trust McCain to do a better job). The economy: Take a look at Obama's district and how the people there live, after he entered into a partnership with a private company to "improve" conditions – slum lord is all I can say.
On top of all that, after all my research into Barack Obama, the damage he would do to our country would be so far reaching that I don't think Roe v. Wade would be our biggest concern. But that's another story, soon to come.
I've taken a good, long look at the candidates and done my homework. And I've chosen the only one qualified to lead our country: John McCain.
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Permalink Reply by Independents for McCain/Tracy Karol on -
I think McCain stated it really well today (well, yesterday now) when he said it's more important to him to win a war than win a political campaign. However, we need him to do both. And since we can't count on the MSM to be objective AT ALL, we have to do the job. So I propose we all post each other's blogs and comment on them, set up alerts, and take over the web as much as possible. I'll do what I can once this dang storm passes...wouldn't you know I'd be on vacation right in the path of Hurricane Dolly?
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Permalink Reply by Red Wing on -
I'm all for that, but how exactly?
And one more thing, I keep hearing McCain has trouble getting his message out, or no one knows what his message is, do we have a campaign slogan, what is our "Change we can believe in" statement?
I can't believe I have to ask that!?!?
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Permalink Reply by BarbaraT on -
*LOL* Red Wing, I can't believe you have to ask that, either, since you just POSTED it over on another thread!
"In Manchester last night, there was just one reporter and one photographer waiting for McCain as his plane -- a white, blue and gold Boeing 737-400 emblazoned with his campaign slogan, "Reform, Prosperity, Peace" -- touched down on the Wiggins Airways tarmac."
Now, repeat after me..............REFORM........PROSPERITY...PEACE. *LOL* Just kidding you Red Wing!
Tracy, I'm in on that one, lets hijack the web for McCain! Touch base ASAP after Dolly is over, ok?
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Permalink Reply by Red Wing on
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Reform, prosperity, peace....reform, prosperity, peace.... Got it. Thanks Barbara!
I was thinking of a statement, how about something right between the eyes of the Obama dribble, like:
McCain '08 "Progress Intelligently Planned"
Get a hold of me too and I will join the blitz!
I wonder where all the people are? It seems like we should be seeing more people on here, especially as this is the main campaign blog site, right?
Is there a giant McCain Forum somewhere I haven't seen?
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Permalink Reply by BarbaraT on
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I keep seeing a YA user using the tag line "Vote sane, vote McCain". I like that!
As far as I know, this is the official place, but until lately it just wasn't promoted properly by the McCain team. I think it's up to us to get more people over here and excited about promoting McCain. I'm doing my best!
BTW, I had to click on my reply to answer, it wasn't giving me a "reply" button under yours.
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Permalink Reply by Dana for McCain on -
Barbara,
"Vote sane, vote McCain" leaves to much for people to play with. The first thing that came to mind was "if you're insane, vote McCain". Sorry, but I always try to think of what the negative outcome might be. I like Chuck's "Progress Intelligently Planned"...but then again, we are expecting everyone in America to understand that.
I still can't believe we need a slogan, but if that is the case, it needs to be simply stated, direct and patriotic. Like (and please, I am not good at this) "Built to Last" no, I am just kidding...haha..."Let the "experienced", begin", "I think, therefore McCain" etc. I will try to keep working on it...it's early and I haven't had any coffee yet.
--Respectfully,
Dana
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Permalink Reply by BarbaraT on
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Dana,
I agree, people could really hack it up, couldn't they? When you said "built to last" the first thing I thought of was Bob Seger's "Like a rock". =) I like "I think, therefore McCain", but it might come off a little elitist. This will be tough. I like McCain's new slogan, and we could always use that, but I would like to see us have one that would identify us to each other around the net - on discussion boards, comment sections, etc. Like PUMA - you know who they are and where they are because they tag everything they do with that, or "Democrats for McCain". Know what I mean?
I'm on my second cup of coffee. I should be able to think of SOMEthing. I'll work on it, too.
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Permalink Reply by Red Wing on
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Okay, it's all up to you Barbara, the campaign rests on your shoulders! LOL! We do need it though, there is a bit of a void in that respect, something everyone can get a handle on...
On another note, I thought BHO's Berlin speech was a big zero! It didn't do much for me. He gave the germans a history lesson...on their own history? Then threw in a bunch of socialist mumbo jumbo about lifting up all the poor people of the world etc. It was a lot of nothing!
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Permalink Reply by BarbaraT on
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Red Wing, catch my thoughts on the speech in the new thread. I only browsed the transcript, but I thought it was about like the validitorium speech at the local high school.
Well, let me put this out to you guys. I don't even know if this would be allowed, but I'm a graphic designer by trade and own a screen printing shop. Do you think if we came up with our own "sub" slogan and logo, and stuck it on some apparel it would be ok with the campaign?
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Permalink Reply by Dana for McCain on
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Barbara,
I don't know if that's a good idea or not...what happens when the M-Camp picks a slogan...,then we might confuse the message.
I would like to talk to you about printing shirts up for "Women for McCain" though. Can you copy the graphics and do it cheaper than what they are asking for on the official website? They want $20.00 per shirt which is crazy. I can't ask people to purchase shirts at that cost here in the "Low Country". I have already confirmed with the Camp, that as long as it is the same print...they don't care. My friend up in Maryland got t-shirts done for $6/per shirt. Please let me know as I am in South Carolina and need to get all this stuff ordered within the next 30 days.
--Dana
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Permalink Reply by BarbaraT on
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Sure, Dana. I'm sure they're just trying to support the fund with the $20 tag on the website. Email me at barbarat54@bellsouth.net and I'll email you back with pricing. South Carolina is generally a 2 day ship from me, UPS. We can take care of that. ;)
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Permalink Reply by Independents for McCain/Tracy Karol on
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My personal slogan is, "It's the candidate, not the party, stupid." But I don't suppose that will work :)
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